The $8000 first time home buyer credit cannot be used towards a buyer’s downpayment. It’s dead on arrival. After much fanfare last month and at the “gentle” urging of the IRS, HUD re-evaluated the potential addition to the first time home buyer program and decided against using the tax credit towards a first time buyer’s downpayment. Last month, the media was abuzz with the proposed plan. Different people, Realtors, bloggers, writers, etc came out quickly for or against the program. I wrote a post after Shaun Donovan from HUD announced the program on the Seattle Real Estate Professional Blog. Now it’s gone with the wind, so start saving your shekels.
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HUD Giveth and HUD Taketh Away The $8000 First Time Home Buyer Credit for a Downpayment
In 2009 stimulus package, For Buyers, Mortgages, Real Estate News, financing, real estate on June 5, 2009 at 5:45 pmThe “New and Improved” Appraisal System is New, But Not Improved
In For Buyers, For Sellers, Kirkland, Mortgages, Redmond, financing, real estate, real estate opinion on June 5, 2009 at 12:53 pmI’m having a bad real estate day because of an appraisal and I was just about to rip my hair out until I read Kris Berg’s excellent piece which did make me laugh about the “fun” we are having with appraisals these days. Kris has a great way of getting serious issues across to her readers, but with a light touch. The HVCC, The Home Evaluation Code of Conduct, is not a humorous situation for consumers and the real estate industry, but it’s probably better for me to laugh a little, since I really want to scream.
As of May 1st, the appraisal industry had to meet new Freddie Mac guidelines called The Home Evaluation Code of Conduct, subtitled “Enhancing The Independence of Appraisers“. The debate about the new home valuation code of conduct has been going on since it was first announced last year and is going on to this day. Before the financial meltdown, there were appraisers who needed to be run out of the appraisal business for appraising properties for exorbitant prices, but the reality is there is now a new set of problems created by these new appraisal guidelines. The appraisals or home valuation system has not been fixed, it just has new problems. In today’s real estate world, a request for an appraisal is sent to an independent clearing house and the next appraiser on the list is selected to do the job. This system has been designed to “enhance the independence of appraisers,” as mentioned above.
Now that this “new and improved system” has been in place for just over 30 days, I’ve had the good fortune to see how it works in reality. Take the latest appraisals I’ve had on two of my recent sales. For those of you in the Seattle area, you’ll understand how far flung the different areas are that each appraiser had to drive to in order to complete assigned appraisals. Appraiser #1 scheduled his appraisal late in the day for a home I’d sold in Redmond, Washington. He had to come late in the day, because he was coming from an appraisal on Vashon Island. Vashon Island, the last time I looked, is southwest of Seattle proper in Puget Sound, while Redmond is located east of Seattle across Lake Washington from downtown. Between ferries, bridges, and highway travel, the appraiser may have to travel 1 1/2 hours (on a good day) between these two appraisal appointments. Appraiser #2 called to appraise a listing of mine in Kirkland, Washington, again on the eastside of Seattle. This appraiser was coming from an appointment in Maple Valley, which is a city much further south and east of Seattle.
This map shows the location of the places the two appraisers had to go to do their job. If you click on “view larger map”, you’ll be able to see the location of these cities. Oh, I forgot, Vashon Island, which is in a different county, doesn’t show up on the map because it’s so much farther south of the Seattle! If you look for Maple Valley that, too, does not show up on this map. Maple Valley happens to be south of Issaquah.
Silly me, when I have a client who wants to look for a home on Vashon Island, I refer the client to a Realtor who knows the island. The same goes for Maple Valley. I could show homes in all of the far flung regions of Seattle/KIng County, but I don’t, because it’s a disservice to my clients. I don’t know about the different school systems and how they affect the value of the homes in each of the cities, counties or islands in the area. I don’t know about the different builders in the area, the different neighborhoods, the shops, parks, etc, etc. Don’t appraisers need that same knowledge to evaluate properties? How can appraisers know all of these areas well and give an accurate appraisal for a home? It’s a problem happening all over the country right now.
The second problem I’ve seen come up with appraisals is a little box checked by the appraiser. As part of the appraisal report, the bank wants to know if the real estate market is appreciating, remaining stable or declining. Recently, two appraisers have checked the box labeling the Seattle/Eastside market as “declining.” What a shock, this is a market where home prices have gone down! I wonder who or where appraisers are checking anything but “declining” in that box. In each case, because of this checked box, the underwriter required a second appraisal.
The lending/appraisal industry was far from perfect before, but these “improvements have and are wreaking havoc with home prices and the entire loan process. If appraisers are not really familiar with a city or neighborhood, there is no way that the majority of appraisals will be accurate. This could hurt consumers, both home buyers and home sellers, if properties are not accurately evaluated. The appraisal process needs an industry watch dog and stricter guidelines, but having the appraiser who’s next in line complete an appraisal in an area he/she knows nothing about dilutes the whole appraisal process. It’s a sad state of events for real estate. I’m hoping the government will see the light and make reasonable changes to this system in the near future.
What problems have you seen since the change in real estate appraisals? My guess is the examples above are only the tip of the iceberg.
WA State & the $8000 First Time Home Buyer Tax Credit
In 2009 stimulus package, For Buyers, Mortgages, WA real estate, financing, real estate on April 21, 2009 at 10:37 amWill Washington State be the first state in the nation to offer a program to first time buyers to use the $8000 home buyer credit towards a down payment for a home?
Here’s a memo from Barbara Lally of the Washington State Realtors Association explaining the program that is in the works:
OLYMPIA, Wash. – The Senate Ways and Means Committee last night (Thursday) unanimously approved a measure designed to help first-time home buyers come up with a down-payment. The committee adopted the measure as an amendment to the proposed Senate biennial operating budget.
The proposal would make the $8000 federal tax credit for first-time home buyers available at the closing of a home sale instead of when a buyer files a tax return. Home buyers would repay the $8000 after filing for and receiving a tax refund. The amendment creates a Tax Credit Advance Loan Program and authorizes the State Treasurer to deposit $25 million in a financial institution giving it the ability to open a line of credit to the State Housing Finance Commission to provide the down payment loans. The deposit would not deplete state funds, but would provide liquidity for the financial Institution to lend its own funds.The program is the first of its kind in the nation and would work as follows:
- The State Treasurer’s Office would make an off-setting deposit in an FDIC-insured short-term
account with a selected financial institution. The investment would earn a low interest rate to
stay fully insured under federal guidelines.- Realtors and other stakeholders back the loans with funds to provide security against losses.
- The financial institution provides the Washington State Housing Finance Commission a line of
credit to advance up to $8000 to qualified first-time home buyers for a down-payment.- Buyers repay the advance loan after filing for and receiving the tax credit.
The amendment is the result of the efforts of the Washington REALTORS®, Washington State Treasurer’s office, and Washington State Housing Finance Commission. State Treasurer James McIntire wrote the budget proviso and is helping to advance the measure through the state legislature.
State Sen. Steve Hobbs (D-Lake Stevens), who offered the amendment, said that using the $8,000 tax credit to help first-time home buyer make down payments could help jump-start the economy. Hobbs noted that home purchases have a significant impact on the retail and banking sectors of the economy and on state and local coffers. “In this recession we need to find new and innovative ways to stimulate the economy. This proviso will slow the decline of our housing market and stimulate the economy,” Hobbs told the Senate Ways and Means Committee.
“Down-payment assistance to our first-time home buyers is the key we need to unlock economic activity throughout the state,” said Greg Wright, President of the Washington Realtors. “This tax credit is new money that we can put to work now to help the housing market and ignite economic action statewide.” According to a study by the Washington Research Council, each home sale by a first-time buyer generates $11,100 in state and local tax revenue. Every 1,000 home sales generate $126 million in general economic activity, supporting 711 jobs.
Home buyer tax credit fact sheet
The goal of the program is to get the money to buyers efficiently and return the federal refund quickly so that the HFC can turn it around to provide more assistance. The funds may revolve as many as three times before the tax credit expires, reaching up to 9000 first-time homebuyers. These “bridge loans” would expire at the same time as the federal tax credit, on November 30, 2009. All of the bridge loan funds return to the state system by early 2010 to use for capital projects in 2010-11.
“With homes at affordable prices and interest rates at historic lows the $8,000 tax credit opens a window of opportunity that may never be seen again,” said Wright, a Chelan Realtor. “The Senate’s budget helps bring that opportunity to families throughout our state.”
Lack of a down-payment is the only barrier to home ownership for up to 50 percent of first-time home buyers, according to J. Lennox Scott, Chairman and CEO of John L. Scott Real Estate. A recent study by the Federal Reserve Board showed that home ownership for people 35 years and younger increased by as much as 43 percent when a primary mortgage was combined with a down-payment assistance loan.
“First-time home buyers are the most critical to the recovery of the housing market and our overall economy, because their purchases set off a chain reaction of buying and selling,” Scott explained. ”The first step toward stimulating the state housing market is making the federal tax credit available at the closing table and increasing down-payment assistance.”
(REALTOR® is a federally registered collective membership mark which identifies a real estate professional who is a member of the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS® and subscribes to its strict Code of Ethics.)
What do you think about the possibility of using the tax credit as part of the down payment for a first time buyer?
Final Thoughts on Real Estate & the Stimulus Plan-Some Things to Consider
In For Buyers, For Homeowners, For Sellers, Mortgages, Real Estate News, real estate on February 16, 2009 at 4:25 amMost of the real estate commentary I’ve seen on the stimulus plan focuses on buying a home, mortgage rates, and mitigating disclosures. Here’s some of the highlights and other things to think about from final real estate version:
- Everyone now knows the tax credit will be $8000 with no payback required. It’s only available to first time buyers or those who haven’t been home owners for the past three years. The credit is available for homes purchased before December 1, 2009. I’m wondering if a buyer has to close on the home purchase before December 1st or have an accepted offer by that date. If the home sale must be closed by the first of December, then buyers need to be buying no later than the end of October to make sure they close on time. Does anyone have the answer and know whether it is an accepted purchase agreement or does the home sale need to be closed?
- Did you know if you use tax credit, you must stay in your home for three years or you would have to repay the credit? I like this idea because it helps to keep home ownership more like it used to be: buying a home to live in, rather than as a quick investment.
- Government backed loan limits will be $729,950 in areas with expensive homes. This should mean the Seattle/Eastside, but have not heard. Does anyone else know if this means us?
- There’s more than $50 billion designated for foreclosure mitigation, some of which will come from last year’s TARP money. It’s about time more is done to stem the tide of foreclosures.
In reading the summary of the stimulus plan I found this section, which I think is important for all homeowners. The quote below is taken from a summary of the plan released by lawmakers. You can find the summary of the plan’s key points in this Inman News article.
Tax Credits for Energy-Efficient Improvements to Existing Homes. The bill would extend the tax credits for improvements to energy-efficient existing homes through 2010. Under current law, individuals are allowed a tax credit equal to ten percent (10%) of the amount paid or incurred by the taxpayer for qualified energy efficiency improvements installed during the taxable year. This tax credit is capped at $50 for any advanced main air circulating fan, $150 for any qualified natural gas, propane, oil furnace or hot water boiler, and $300 for any item of energy-efficient building property. For 2009 and 2010, the bill would increase the amount of the tax credit to thirty percent (30%) of the amount paid or incurred by the taxpayer for qualified energy efficiency improvements during the taxable year. The bill would also eliminate the property-by-property dollar caps on this tax credit and provide an aggregate $1,500 cap on all property qualifying for the credit. The bill would update the energy-efficiency standards of the property qualifying for the credit.
The tax credits for energy efficient home improvements ties into this week’s NPR’s Sunday edition interview with The New York Time’s economic reporter, David Leonhardt. He had some great ideas to rethink how we spend our money. He thinks spending should be considered in tandem with future savings, not just with consumption. Investing in a more energy efficient furnace, as an example, would create future savings in your energy bill. Most of his suggestions centered on the cost of acquiring an item vs. the future savings benefit. A better furnace could cost more money in the beginning, but give a larger payback on monthly heating bills.
It’s unfortunate the home buyer tax credit was reduced. Fewer homes may sell as a result. However, cuts did need to be made in different parts of the plan to get it passed. I like the incentive for making energy efficient changes to a home. I’m hoping it will get more people to think to make a change as a long term payback.
What are your thoughts about the stimulus plan?
More on The 2009 Stimulus Plan, Real Estate, and Mortgages
In 2009 stimulus package, For Buyers, For Sellers, Mortgages, Real Estate News, financing, real estate on February 6, 2009 at 10:49 amI wrote about the 2009 Stimulus Plan and its proposed benefits to real estate, and here’s the latest update as of February 5th, 2009. Some thoughts from David Espo for the Senate proposal regarding the tax credit:
“The proposal would allow a tax credit of 10 percent of the value of new or existing residences, up to a $15,000 limit. Current law provides for a $7,500 tax break for the purchase of new homes only.”
When I looked back at David Espo’s remark about the “tax break for the purchase of new homes only,” I wonder if he meant to say the original tax credit is for new home buyers, those who had not owned a home for three years.
There’s discussion now with the Senate proposal for the credit apply to all homes and buyers. I’m still not clear on this, so if you heard something please jump in.
Here’s a link to an article from the Kentucky Herald regarding the Senate’s proposed tax credit.
There’s a lot of discussion as to whether the housing industry is the linchpin to getting the economy back on track. Helping to move unsold homes and get people into homes that are so much better priced than in the recent past, is a good thing. The country has to start from somewhere to get the economy moving. I would much rather see tax money go to home buyers than bank executives with no accountability.
Hopefully, the new stimulus package will have clearer guidelines and expectations of those who receive any money or tax incentives. Incentives, whether it’s for housing or some other commodity will help get people moving, literally and figuratively.
What do you think of the $15,000 home buyer credit?
The Latest Mortgage News- January 9th, 2008
In For Buyers, For Homeowners, For Sellers, Mortgages, financing, real estate on January 9, 2009 at 1:57 pmGuest Post from Steve Tedrow of Windermere Mortgage Services LLC/East:
The government has initiated their buying of mortgage backed securities as part of their recent plan. This has been received very favorably in the markets and has caused interest rates to start dropping again. 30 year fixed rate conforming loans are back into the 4.625-4.75% range. Hopefully, as conditions begin to improve, we will see investors start to get back in the market for jumbo loans so those rates will come down as well.
The experts I listen most closely to are predicting an improved year over last year. The Fed and the Treasury will continue to add lots of stimulus to our economy (like buying billions and billions of dollars of mortgage backed securities). The improvement will obviously take a little time. We shouldn’t expect any rate cuts since there is nothing to cut. When we do see a rate hike, that should be a welcome sign since it should be a sign of an improving economy.
One certainty is that there will continue to be extreme volatility in stocks, bonds, and mortgage rates. Their prediction for mortgages rates this year will be in the 4.5 – 5% range (unless there are any special government sponsored programs).
Conforming rates are the lowest they have been in decades.
And for an interesting news item for today…..
In a historic move, the Bank of England lowered their benchmark interest rate by .50% to 1.5%. Now get this – the benchmark rate has NEVER been this low since King William III founded the central bank in 1694 to fund a war against Louis XIV’s France. The rate began at 6% and fell no lower than 4% throughout the 18th century. It touched 2% several times in the second half of the 19th century. The central bank held it at that level throughout the Great Depression and World War II until 1951. These sure are historic times.
Steve Tedrow
Branch Manager/Mortgage Consultant
Windermere Mortgage Services LLC/East
phone (425) 576-5461
cell (206) 920-1012
Attention Home Shoppers! A Few Mortgage/Financing Updates
In For Buyers, For Sellers, Mortgages, Real Estate News, financing, real estate on May 14, 2008 at 7:51 amAttention all home buyers! Here’s a brief update on some changes in financing I heard about from Steve Tedrow of Windermere Mortgage:
Conforming Jumbo loan rate is now at 5.25% for a 5/1 ARM, only 1/8% higher than conventional, non-jumbo loan. Fixed jumbo rates are at 5.875%
Limited or no documentation loans are dead and gone.
Credit scores need to be above 700 for almost all of today’s loans.
Financing regs and requirements are changing from moment to moment, so check with a lender you trust for the very latest information.


